Curse

Dark Tykane · Jun 19, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

I got tired of most places having small things preventing I-necro in factions. Instead of nerfing the 55 part they pretty much nerfed just the SS part with small interrupts here or there. So I changed the build around depending on where I wanted to solo and if you are good at it you can do many places in Cantha.(I haven't tried much of the luxon places with it because I'm kurzick)
Not major changes but its changed enough for it to work with jade brotherhood mesmers around and I even got it to where its easy to solo Kracken spawns. It's not the greatest i just made it so there isn't any long casting times.
For Krackens
-Attributes
Blood Magic-12
Death Magic-12
Curses-3(unused)
Soul Reaping-6
Protection prayers-10
Healing Prayers-9 (yes 9 they kill your regen)
-Skills
PS
HB
Vigorous Spirit
Dark Aura
Cultist's Fervor
Dark pact
mending
essence bond(their hits don't trigger on balthazar's spirit)
It'll still work if you change it but CF holds energy costs way way down and everything causes damage even though they run.

Jade Brotherhood
It's pretty much the same as the old build but the damage isn't SS because the mesmers.
-Attributes
Blood magic-14
Death Magic-11(these two can change I just have blood higher for longer lasting CF)
Soul Reaping-5
Curses-3(unused)
Healing Prayers-8
Protection prayers-10
-Skills
PS
HB
Dark Aura
CF
Dark pact(Jaundiced Gaze works great too and if you cast it on one with health^50 it negates all of the sacrifice and damage from dark aura but costs 10energy and is too hard to use without CF on)
Mending
Balthazar's spirit
Essence Bond
This build is hard to use when theres more than one mesmer around but if you can manage to make them use up their interrupts and then get up dark aura and CF then you'll have an easy time.

This can be used a lot of places. I wouldn't recommend using this anywhere that an 55SS can do easily because that is better in certain places.(anywhere with barbs) This is just an alternative for where SS can't go.

Dark Tykane · Jun 20, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12

Why doesnt anybody like my build D:

2ndName · Jun 21, 2006, 12:34 AM // 00:34

I think people do like your build, just that, without an exact location on where people can farm tons of Kraken and etc. no one will really try the build out. Just a suggestion.

Kidney Licker · Jun 21, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

How many Jade can the second one take on? With the extra saccing from CF it looks like it could be tough going without HB on all of the time. Are you able to solo any bosses with it? I think most people are interested in builds to solo bosses for greens.

Bloodied Blade · Jun 21, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

You could simply try using a lower damage SoJ... Not sure how that would work though (I still mainain that it is more useful on a warrior than Gladiator's Defense...)

Dark Tykane · Jun 21, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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Originally Posted by Kidney Licker

How many Jade can the second one take on? With the extra saccing from CF it looks like it could be tough going without HB on all of the time. Are you able to solo any bosses with it? I think most people are interested in builds to solo bosses for greens.

Look up the bosses and the explorable Nahpui Quarter if you're good enough you can solo the ranger there. I'm not going to make a detailed run to him but you can easily figure it out. You have to be really good at doing it though because there are many groups with two mesmers in them and its hard to get past the interrupts when you have to cast so many enchantments.
BTW: Yes you definately need HB up all the time but thats ok when you are doing damage you have CF up and HB and PS cost 3 energy each.

Dark Tykane · Jun 21, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by 2ndName

I think people do like your build, just that, without an exact location on where people can farm tons of Kraken and etc. no one will really try the build out. Just a suggestion.

I think the place that you can solo kracken spawns at is Boreas Seabed? I forgot the places name but i think thats it its right outside Zos Shivros. There aren't many kracken spawns but you can also kill the naga roming around. If you do go for naga make sure to kill the archers first the cause dazed.
I haven't tried the outcasts that are to the left of the door but theres a boss with them who I think drops a Tactics shield with armor +10vs ?slashing? I'm pretty confident you could but they might have something to ruin it that im not thinking of right now.

Dark Tykane · Jun 21, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

I think the place that you can solo kracken spawns at is Boreas Seabed? I forgot the places name but i think thats it its right outside Zos Shivros. There aren't many kracken spawns but you can also kill the naga roming around. If you do go for naga make sure to kill the archers first the cause dazed.
I haven't tried the outcasts that are to the left of the door but theres a boss with them who I think drops a Tactics shield with armor +10vs ?slashing? I'm pretty confident you could but they might have something to ruin it that im not thinking of right now.

You can also solo all of the Jade brother's in Pongmei I don't know if you could do that with the SS build I tried and the mesmers ruined it all. (This means theres another solo build for Xuekao!yaaay!not)
I'm also quite confident you could solo most of Xaquang Skyway although I haven't tried it and I haven't been there in a month or so.

Dark Tykane · Jun 21, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

You can also solo all of the Jade brother's in Pongmei I don't know if you could do that with the SS build I tried and the mesmers ruined it all. (This means theres another solo build for Xuekao!yaaay!not)
I'm also quite confident you could solo most of Xaquang Skyway although I haven't tried it and I haven't been there in a month or so.

If only I could fight Wing, Three Blade (they don't pop up for me any more as they are all green now) I'm almost positive you could solo him I was there last night with a group of people and I didn't see anything that would ruin it.

Kidney Licker · Jun 21, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

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Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

Look up the bosses and the explorable Nahpui Quarter if you're good enough you can solo the ranger there. I'm not going to make a detailed run to him but you can easily figure it out. You have to be really good at doing it though because there are many groups with two mesmers in them and its hard to get past the interrupts when you have to cast so many enchantments.
BTW: Yes you definately need HB up all the time but thats ok when you are doing damage you have CF up and HB and PS cost 3 energy each.

Thnx, I'll give it a shot, though I'm really lazy and will probably give up if it gets too difficult

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I don't farm that much in Factions but I've started using a touch necro build to farm bits of the city,and can farm Ghial and Lian with it, though Ghial takes a while to get to. Sorting the necro skills by activation time and picking up the ones with < 1 sec time to counter the mesmer interrupts pretty much decided the build. It's

Vamp touch,
Touch of agony,
Offering of blood,
Watchful spirit
Mending
PS
Bals
Essence

It can probably be refined though as I'm working on titles instead of farming. Haven't had any problem with interrupts. The main weakness is that you need to be in melee range to do damage.

Dunno if this has been posted elsewhere, (except similar for in the touch ranger thread). I'm only a quarter of the way through the game so don't know if it works anywhere else too.

EDIT:

Actually I just realised I haven't capped CF yet...

Dark Tykane · Jun 21, 2006, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kidney Licker

Thnx, I'll give it a shot, though I'm really lazy and will probably give up if it gets too difficult

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I don't farm that much in Factions but I've started using a touch necro build to farm bits of the city,and can farm Ghial and Lian with it, though Ghial takes a while to get to. Sorting the necro skills by activation time and picking up the ones with < 1 sec time to counter the mesmer interrupts pretty much decided the build. It's

Vamp touch,
Touch of agony,
Offering of blood,
Watchful spirit
Mending
PS
Bals
Essence

It can probably be refined though as I'm working on titles instead of farming. Haven't had any problem with interrupts. The main weakness is that you need to be in melee range to do damage.

Dunno if this has been posted elsewhere, (except similar for in the touch ranger thread). I'm only a quarter of the way through the game so don't know if it works anywhere else too.

EDIT:

Actually I just realised I haven't capped CF yet...

Thanks for showin off your build in my thread...jk
I'm going to try Ghial and all them today.

Zephyr Jackson · Jun 21, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

wow 4 posts in 10 minutes take a break jesus

Dark Tykane · Jun 21, 2006, 09:39 PM // 21:39

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Originally Posted by Zephyr Jackson

wow 4 posts in 10 minutes take a break jesus

I did that last night and all at the same time the only reason it wasn't one post was to show the seperate place and people will read 4 post one paragraph long before they read one post 4 paragraphs long.
BTW: I tried some vermins and the build can work there too.

Kidney Licker · Jun 21, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

I'm going to try Ghial and all them today.

You should be able to handle Ghial as the groups only have one mesmer, but there are just a lot of groups. Out of curiosity do you go for the mesmer or the ritualist first in the group?

I normally go for the ritualist first as they heal, but the damage output for your build looks a bit higher, though easier to interrupt, does that mean you go for mesmers first?

Dark Tykane · Jun 22, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kidney Licker

You should be able to handle Ghial as the groups only have one mesmer, but there are just a lot of groups. Out of curiosity do you go for the mesmer or the ritualist first in the group?

I normally go for the ritualist first as they heal, but the damage output for your build looks a bit higher, though easier to interrupt, does that mean you go for mesmers first?

Actually when I tried today it was really very easy to kill a group with even two mesmers in it. Because of the amount of people in each group even just one energy management skill (Balths) I have enough energy to spam any one of my skills almost constantly. So now I cast dark pact one or two times before I cast the any enchantment just to use up the interrupts. I can kill a group very easy and the rits healing doesnt matter much because the mesmers and rits stand together a lot and because its all the foes around me the rits cant heal enough. Everybody around me was takin at least 60 damage and my target was takin 100 every time i used dark pact.

Xaero Gouki Kriegor · Jun 22, 2006, 06:01 AM // 06:01

dark bomber with 55 skills and soj?

aura of the lich, takes less damage

Dark Tykane · Jun 22, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by Xaero Gouki Kriegor

dark bomber with 55 skills and soj?

aura of the lich, takes less damage

....Why should I care?
Against a kracken spawn you would die fast and have no energy just try it.
I'm sure with this build there is more damage and more energy efficiency. With Cultist's Fervor up everything costs 7 less energy and every skill triggers dark aura. Dark pact triggers it twice dealing big damage and it actually gives you energy back and it takes 2 seconds to recharge. And usually them running away just helps you. Against mesmers you have time to cast an enchantment as they run and with the ritualists they cant heal the others while running. AoE nerf didn't ruin it all.

BTW last night I managed to kill every Jade Brotherhood in explorable Nahpui Quarter.

CKaz · Jun 22, 2006, 07:24 PM // 19:24

hmm I had a warrior and ele that could do everything but Kenshi
my necro might be the next guy headed there

I already have an inec I'll let you know if I can knock that guy out
[and yeah jade brotherhood mesmers/no SS]

Dark Tykane · Jun 23, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Screenshots of Royen

Dark Tykane · Jul 06, 2006, 07:56 AM // 07:56

anyone else have thoughts on this build?